Obama Birth Certificate Sealed: Hawaii Gov Lingle

HONOLULU, Hawaii – Although the legitimacy of Sen. Barack Obama’s birth certificate has become a focus of intense speculation – and even several lawsuits – WND has learned that Hawaii’s Gov. Linda Lingle has placed the candidate’s birth certificate under seal and instructed the state’s Department of Health to make sure no one in the press obtains access to the original document under any circumstances.

Source: World Net Daily

The action comes on the heels of Obama’s recent quick visit to Hawaii, purportedly to visit his ailing grandmother.

More on the controversy, see Newsweek “Born in the USA”

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21 Responses to “Obama Birth Certificate Sealed: Hawaii Gov Lingle”

  1. smrstrauss Says:

    This just in:

    State declares Barack Obama’s Hawaii birth certificate is genuine

    By Associated Press
    6:43 PM EDT, October 31, 2008

    HONOLULU (AP) _ State officials say there’s no doubt Barack Obama was born in Hawaii.

    Health Department Director Dr. Chiyome Fukino said Friday she and the registrar of vital statistics, Alvin Onaka, have personally verified that the health department holds Obama’s original birth certificate.

    Fukino says that no state official, including Republican Gov. Linda Lingle, ever instructed that Obama’s certificate be handled differently.

    She says state law bars release of a certified birth certificate to anyone who does not have a tangible interest.

    ===
    (and this slightly different account:)

    Friday, October 31, 2008 – 11:51 AM HAST (That means Hawaii/Aleutian Standard Time)

    Obama’s Hawaii birth certificate confirmed
    Pacific Business News (Honolulu)

    The director of Hawaii’s Department of Health confirmed on Friday what Barack Obama has been saying all along: the presidential candidate was born in Honolulu.

    “There have been numerous requests for Sen. Barack Hussein Obama’s official birth certificate,” said Chiyome Fukino. “State law prohibits the release of a certified birth certificate to persons who do not have a tangible interest in the vital record.”

    Citing her statutory authority to oversee and maintain Hawaii’s vital records, Fukino said she has “personally seen and verified that the Hawaii State Department of Health has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures.

    “No state official, including Gov. Linda Lingle, has ever instructed that this vital record be handled in a manner different from any other vital record in the possession of the State of Hawaii,” Fukino added.

    Lingle, a Republican, has been campaigning on the Mainland for Obama’s opponent, Sen. John McCain of Arizona.

    Obama, a Democratic senator from Illinois, was born Aug. 4, 1961, in Honolulu. He graduated high school at Punahou School in 1979.

    End quote:

    These two versions of the same report seem clear enough. The birth certificate is on file in Hawaii and it is valid.

    However, the opponents of Obama simply will not give up. I have seen one Web comment that went along these lines: “It could have been a valid Kenyan birth certificate on file in Hawaii that the Hawaii official was talking about.”

    Laughable, of course, why would a Kenyan birth certificate be filed in Hawaii?

    Oh, and as to the claim that Obama’s grandmother said that she had been present at his birth in Kenya. Well, that all stems from Corsi and Philip Berg, who claim to have an audio tape of her saying that. But Berg and Corsi have never played that tape for anyone. And they have not shown any other evidence, such as Kenyan documents, either.

    Oh, and the report of the Hawaii governor having ordered Obama’s birth records sealed, that is false too. Apparently it stems from Corsi. The Gov. of Hawaii is a Republican, so why should she issue a special seal order. The facts are that all birth records are sealed in Hawaii–to anyone other than the family.

  2. steadyjohn Says:

    smrstrauss – You write: “Laughable, of course, why would a Kenyan birth certificate be filed in Hawaii?”

    Q: Can someone get a Hawaiian Birth Certificate if they were born outside Hawaii?

    A: YES.

    HAWAIIAN LAW:

    [§338-17.8] Certificates for children born out of State. (a) Upon application of an adult or the legal parents of a minor child, the director of health shall issue a birth certificate for such adult or minor, provided that proof has been submitted to the director of health that the legal parents of such individual while living without the Territory or State of Hawaii had declared the Territory or State of Hawaii as their legal residence for at least one year immediately preceding the birth or adoption of such child.
    see: http://is.gd/5DYB

    Also the spokesperson notably made no reference to the document posted on the Obama “smear” website which is a “Certification of Live Birth” as opposed to a “Certificate of Live Birth”. The difference can readily be seen here: http://is.gd/4Uug
    Notice box 7c, of a specimen document, which asks for “County and State or Foreign Country” of the birth.

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  5. jim Says:

    Just to keep the record straight, the Hawaiian statute that allows certificates for children born outside of Hawaii was passed in ***1982***. Which means that it can’t apply to Obama’s birth certificate, unless you allow for time travel.

    Additionally, even if such a birth certificate were possible for Obama at the time of his birth – it would still list his actual place of birth. It certainly would not say “Honolulu” if he were born outside Honolulu, let alone Hawaii.

  6. steadyjohn Says:

    Jim: How do you know that ….the statute…was passed in ***1982***? Everything I have read about the statute confirms that it was in force at the time of Obama’s supposed birth. I don’t think the date of “1982” which appears on the text (http://is.gd/5DYB) is the date of enactment. Prove me wrong if you can. In the meantime I am looking for my sources that indicate the statute was on the books in 1961. It seems your reference to “Honolulu” must be to the “Certification of Live Birth” which document (possibly fraudulent) is on the internet and on the Obama site. That is not the original “vault copy” of the “Certificate of Live Birth” which, if it exists (and the Hawaiian officials say it does), is the final word on the subject, and incidentally, the final word that Obama does not want us to hear.

  7. Kevin Says:

    To SteadyJohn, Box 7c of a 1960’s-era Hawaiian birth registration form is the Usual Address of the Mother. The Location of Birth is in box 6a and has nothing in it about other state or country. The whole idea of foreign birth registrations in Hawaii in the 1960s is as bogus as the label on box 7c being the location of birth.

  8. Bill Says:

    smrstrauss wrote:
    “These two versions of the same report seem clear enough. The birth certificate is on file in Hawaii and it is valid.”

    That is correct, both versions of the report state that they have his original cert on file in Hawaii and that it is a valid cert… What they DO NOT SAY is that the copies we have been presented with By DailyKOS, Obama’s website and Factcheck(yeah right).org are genuine copies.

    you make a comment regarding how “the opponents of Obama simply will not give up” yet you ignore the very facts that you posted.
    NO ONE has validated those images as authentic to my knowledge, and regardless of the repeated protestations of the worshipers of the little tin god, that is a fact.

    “Health Department Director Dr. Chiyome Fukino said Friday she and the registrar of vital statistics, Alvin Onaka, have personally verified that the health department holds Obama’s original birth certificate.”

    That statement ONLY says that she’s seen it and they have it on file.

    the story’s headline and lead-in are both the words of the article’s author, not quotes from the State of Hawaii…

    the second article you point to again has the author’s lead-in, but that is NOT a quote from the state of Hawaii either, then you again paste in the quotes that say
    ““There have been numerous requests for Sen. Barack Hussein Obama’s official birth certificate,” said Chiyome Fukino. “State law prohibits the release of a certified birth certificate to persons who do not have a tangible interest in the vital record.”

    Citing her statutory authority to oversee and maintain Hawaii’s vital records, Fukino said she has “personally seen and verified that the Hawaii State Department of Health has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures.

    “No state official, including Gov. Linda Lingle, has ever instructed that this vital record be handled in a manner different from any other vital record in the possession of the State of Hawaii,” Fukino added.”

    and again, that quote says the same thing the first one does…
    The state has a copy of his original one on file and it is a valid cert…
    there’s still no “validation, or authentication” of the images we’ve been shown…

    come on now, it’s not like this is rocket science here.. you can’t twist the factual meaning of someone’s words and not have thinking people call you on it, you also can’t make them mean anything other than exactly what they mean.
    “No one from the state of Hawaii has ever validated the images we’ve been presented with as being authentic copies of Barry’s COLB”

    even the one comment (i don’t have the quote in front of me right now) skirted around the issue by saying that the image “looked” like the right type, but again, there’s no validation there either.

    Frankly, I think the indifference to the issue and the blind acceptance of “questioable” documentation by Barry’s supporters only lend credence to the fact that a majority of Americans are totally uneducated fools, but i digress…

    the REAL fact of the matter is, his mother could have popped him out in the middle of Waikiki beach and he’s still not eligible to hold the office of the president for one simple, yet seemingly overlooked fact.
    At the time of his birth his mother was not old enough to confer US citizenship on him, and even IF you are willing to overlook that, his Father was a foreign national and therefor, under NO circumstances would he meet the constitutional requirement of a “Natural Born” Citizen.. simply being born on American soil is NOT enough to meet that requirement…

    This doesn’t even account for him renouncing his US citizenship in 1981 either )after the age of 18)… yes, it’s in the books and it’s law…

    his followers can worship at the feet of their messiah all day long and it will not change the facts…

    of course, i’m not trying to beat you up here, or anyone else for that matter, i’m just saying that you should know the law and use your brain.. That’s what God gave it to you for not just a place to put your hat…

    as for anyone who doesn’t believe me, check it out, everything i wrote here is a verifiable fact….

    Bill

  9. steadyjohn Says:

    Thanks Bill, for taking the time to clarify the BC issue. My postings about the Obama usurpation are now at:
    http://obamatheusurper.wordpress.com
    Please visit there, your comments will be welcome.
    John

  10. Bill Says:

    Hi steadyjohn,
    you’re quite welcome sir, and i appreciate the invite…
    I will definitely pop over and visit…

    I must say, I like the post on “Quo Warranto”… I also like the Advancements that are starting to show in the realm of settling this issue and the usurpation once and for all…

    While i know you might be busy in other venues, there are two links at http://www.william-e.com/ that you might like.. well the first one you will probably like as it will lead you to several of my views and thoughts on things and the second one is still a work in progress, but there’s a couple of years left before it needs to be “ready” so I have time to make it a great place too.

    Thanks for the reply Sir…
    now if i can figure out how to do something in wordpress LOL

    Bill

  11. billmcgee Says:

    Thank you sir..

    w00t, i don’t even think i broke anything 🙂

    http://billmcgee.wordpress.com/

    Bill

  12. steadyjohn Says:

    Bill: All the Best with your new blog also!

  13. slaveofthedividedstates Says:

    well since it is said that the information in hawaii has been “verified” why hasn’t this whole issue been brought to the attention of the american public and why can’t the world get a look at this “verified” document?

    • steadyjohn Says:

      That is the question of the century! The following letter from Western Center for Journalism was sent as an email from World Net Daily today:

      Barack Hussein Obama obviously has something to hide. He obviously knows how to keep a secret when it comes to releasing his Birth Certificate; the one document that could bolster the argument that he is, in fact, eligible under Article 2, Section 1, of the United States Constitution to hold the office of President of the United States.

      And yet, Barack Hussein Obama has no problem sharing information that SHOULD remain secret to the entire world and to our enemies.

      Case in point! The Obama Administration just released secret memos and photographs that detail the interrogations of terrorists that were being held in American custody.

      Obama authorized the release of these photographs and memos in spite of the undeniable fact that releasing these memos and photographs places the lives of our intelligence operatives and their families in imminent danger.

      Obama authorized the release of these photographs and memos in spite of the undeniable fact that releasing these memos severely compromises our national security, and endangers each and every one of us.

      It’s becoming more and more clear, with each passing day, that the issue surrounding Obama’s refusal to release his Birth Certificate and prove his eligibility to hold the office of President of the United States goes much deeper than initially thought.

      The fact that Obama has something to hide when it comes to his Birth Certificate (and some of his college records for that matter) is now more than apparent.

      And Obama, through his own obstruction in this matter, has established that contention as valid. It can no longer be reasonably questioned.

      But what is now becoming apparent is that Obama’s refusal to release his Birth Certificate hints at an arrogance and disdain of the American people that is unprecedented… an arrogance and disdain that places all of us, our children, our grandchildren and our way of life in extreme jeopardy.

  14. Bill Says:

    slaveofthedividedstates Says:
    May 15, 2009 at 2:34 pm | Reply

    well since it is said that the information in hawaii has been “verified” why hasn’t this whole issue been brought to the attention of the american public and why can’t the world get a look at this “verified” document?

    BINGO!!!!

    steadyjohn Says:
    May 15, 2009 at 2:53 pm | Reply

    That is the question of the century! The following letter from Western Center for Journalism was sent as an email from World Net Daily today:

    ” The fact that Obama has something to hide when it comes to his Birth Certificate (and some of his college records for that matter) is now more than apparent.

    And Obama, through his own obstruction in this matter, has established that contention as valid. It can no longer be reasonably questioned.

    But what is now becoming apparent is that Obama’s refusal to release his Birth Certificate hints at an arrogance and disdain of the American people that is unprecedented… an arrogance and disdain that places all of us, our children, our grandchildren and our way of life in extreme jeopardy.”

    exactly…

    Obama = One Big Ass Mistake America…

    jmho..

  15. Poppet Says:

    The Obama “colb” only state’s “Date Filed” by
    Registra…. Other’s usually state “Date Accepted”.

    Sealed birth certificates are used when a child
    is Adopted..

    Hawaii Statute 338-20.5 (in part)
    (b) After preparation of the new certificate of birth in the new name of the adopted person, the department of health shall seal and file the certified copy of the adoptive decree, the investigatory report and recommendation of the director of human services if any, the report constituting the original certificate of birth, and the request for a new certificate of birth. The sealed documents may be opened by the department only by an order of a court of record or when requested in accordance with section 578-14.5 or 578-15. The new certificate of birth shall show the true or probable foreign country of birth, and that the certificate is not evidence of United States citizenship for the child for whom it is issued or for the adoptive parents. [L 1979, c 203, §3; am L 1990, c 338, §3]

    http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrscurrent/Vol06_Ch0321-0344/HRS0338/HRS_0338-0020_0005.htm

    Hawaii Statute 338-21 (in part)
    b) The evidence upon which the new original certificate is made, and the superseded original certificate shall be SEALED and filed and may be opened only upon order of a court of record.

    Dan, NY

  16. Bill Says:

    Hi Dan,
    IF Barry was adopted, I would think that it might simply be that his grandmother adopted him because of the Mother having issues of one sort or another, or maybe that the grandmother adopted him for schooling purposes, medical authorizations and such, I don’t see anything wrong with that myself, in fact, that would show a great deal about how much his family loved him and wanted to take care of him, I think that the main issue and the one most ignored by his supporters is the simple fact that his Father was not a US citizen and therefore, while he may or may not be a 14th amendment citizen, he could never be a 2nd amendment citizen.

    To take that thought one step further, Cheif Justice Marshall noted/commented in a case regarding the constitution, that each article of the constitution was intended to have a separate effect, otherwise there would be no need for 2 articles stating the same thing, therefore, i believe that there is a difference between a 2nd amendment citizen and a 14th amendment citizen and as such, the birth certificate it’s self is a moot point unless it would somehow show an American citizen being his father as well, otherwise, he’s not eligible to be president in any case.

    Just my take on it though, thanks for the link and the info.

    Bill

    • steadyjohn Says:

      I assume by “2nd Amendment citizen” you are referring to Article II of the Constitution. Specifically that would be Article II, Section 1, Clause 5; the “natural born citizen” requirement for presidential eligibility.

      • Bill Says:

        Yes sir,
        That is correct, the intent of that as discussed by the founding fathers was the the person who became either president or vice president would be an American citizen who held no allegiance to any other country, the implication (as I understood it) has always been (until this past election cycle) that the Person was an American citizen born of 2 American citizen parents because at the time that the constitution was written, the commonly held view was that the citizenship of a child followed what was called “natural law”(and other names as well) whereby the child ‘s was based on that of the father.
        I believe that there is much merit to that in that it also follows the lines of procreation and a couple of other factors there.
        For example, both my mother and father were American citizens and while it’s not relevant to it, their parents were too, so I am automatically a second amendment citizen and the 14th amendment doesn’t apply to me in the area of determining my citizenship’s status, but, I do also qualify as a 14th amendment citizen simply by being born on US soil.
        In my reading of Chief Justice Marshall’s writings(comment) and the writing of others, I have come to realize that a 2nd amendment citizen will always be qualified as a 14th amendment citizen, but the reverse is not always true. (IE. a 14th amendment citizen will not necessarily be a 2nd amendment citizen)

        I might not have worded that as well as I could, but i believe the point should be there 🙂

        Thanks SteadyJohn
        Bill

        links:
        http://opengov.ideascale.com/akira/ideafactory.do?mode=tag&tag=natural%20born

        specifically a few of the post by nemesispaladin which reads in part:

        our Constitution was based upon the encyclopedic “The Law of Nations,” a treatise written by Swiss lawyer and diplomat Emerich de Vattel as a manual for how government should function. Written in 1758, this work was read not only by the Founding Fathers, but was also well-known throughout the colonies among the populace. (so “natural born” did not have to be defined in the Constitution – it was a common term, perhaps like the term “first down” in football or “home run” in baseball – it was a clearly understood term.)

        …in Book I, Chapter XIX, part 212, it says: “The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens.” Here is the definition the Founding Fathers did not deem necessary to supply since it was already understood. And since Obama’s father was a Kenyan citizen, Obama is therefore not a natural born citizen and is thus ineligible to be President.” (Basically, forget the birth certificate!!! This is ALL you need to follow the law and to understand the term from “those days”.)

        and

        Natural Born Citizen
        Simply put, being a natural born citizen requires you to be born within the country of two citizen parents.

        there’s a link to Vattel’s comments at http://www.constitution.org/vattel/vattel.htm

        and the acknowledgment that the 14th amendment doesn’t qualify someone under the 2nd.

        there’s also much more at http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ei=p7UvStO7M92ptgeB9qX6Cw&sa=X&oi=spell&resnum=0&ct=result&cd=1&q=founding+fathers+discussion+on+%22natural+born+citizenship%22&spell=1

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